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		<title>By: Motherof5</title>
		<link>http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/jenny-mccarthy-responding-to-criticism/#comment-27515</link>
		<dc:creator>Motherof5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a first time poster who just happened to stumble across you website. Thank you for providing such an informative site and forum to discuss these issues. I am a mother of 5 children (3 are from my husband&#039;s first marriage) and 4 have ASD. Our eldest was diagnosed with Asperger&#039;s at 12 and received only some social skills training as we learned to navigate the ASD road. Our 3 youngest have received behavioral intervention only. No biomedical interventions whatsoever and I can say that my children are thriving. Our 11 year old son is in regular classes in middle school with minor accomodations, our 4 year old daughter is capable of nearly age appropriate conversation - the echolalia is still present but lessens as she ages and attends an SDC preschool - and our 2 and 1/2  year old went from non verbal to speaking in two word phrases after 9 months of speech and 2 months of ABA. 

The fact that people can see the same &quot;miraculous&quot; results with and without biomedical interventions would, I hope, give a parent pause. I am in &quot;your community&quot; and I know what you go through and I know that desire for the quick fix. I know that feeling of wanting, NEEDING to do something so you can feel like your the one in charge not the autism. When considering treatments try and keep perspective. Don&#039;t just take one side&#039;s opinion but research the pros AND cons. Support research in any way you can (CADDRE in the U.S. is beginning a 5 year nationwide study called SEED - study to explore early development for example). And be respectful. Remember that whatever your feelings about the cause and best treatment for autism in the end we&#039;re all working towards the same end - trying to help our children grow and realize all the potential they carry inside of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a first time poster who just happened to stumble across you website. Thank you for providing such an informative site and forum to discuss these issues. I am a mother of 5 children (3 are from my husband&#8217;s first marriage) and 4 have ASD. Our eldest was diagnosed with Asperger&#8217;s at 12 and received only some social skills training as we learned to navigate the ASD road. Our 3 youngest have received behavioral intervention only. No biomedical interventions whatsoever and I can say that my children are thriving. Our 11 year old son is in regular classes in middle school with minor accomodations, our 4 year old daughter is capable of nearly age appropriate conversation &#8211; the echolalia is still present but lessens as she ages and attends an SDC preschool &#8211; and our 2 and 1/2  year old went from non verbal to speaking in two word phrases after 9 months of speech and 2 months of ABA. </p>
<p>The fact that people can see the same &#8220;miraculous&#8221; results with and without biomedical interventions would, I hope, give a parent pause. I am in &#8220;your community&#8221; and I know what you go through and I know that desire for the quick fix. I know that feeling of wanting, NEEDING to do something so you can feel like your the one in charge not the autism. When considering treatments try and keep perspective. Don&#8217;t just take one side&#8217;s opinion but research the pros AND cons. Support research in any way you can (CADDRE in the U.S. is beginning a 5 year nationwide study called SEED &#8211; study to explore early development for example). And be respectful. Remember that whatever your feelings about the cause and best treatment for autism in the end we&#8217;re all working towards the same end &#8211; trying to help our children grow and realize all the potential they carry inside of them.</p>
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		<title>By: original cali biomed xprt</title>
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		<dc:creator>original cali biomed xprt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am not alone in my belief as you can see by the number of vaccination waivers being signed nowadays and the other organizations out there like safeminds, taca, dan and many others.&quot;

That&#039;s not actually &quot;belief&quot;, it&#039;s really HYSTERIA.  I&#039;m all too familiar with SafeMINDS, TACA, DAN, et al.  They don&#039;t speak for me or my child.  I am totally offended by the way Lisa Ackerman spins her tale of deception about &quot;poisoned&quot; children who are &quot;toxic train wrecks&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am not alone in my belief as you can see by the number of vaccination waivers being signed nowadays and the other organizations out there like safeminds, taca, dan and many others.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not actually &#8220;belief&#8221;, it&#8217;s really HYSTERIA.  I&#8217;m all too familiar with SafeMINDS, TACA, DAN, et al.  They don&#8217;t speak for me or my child.  I am totally offended by the way Lisa Ackerman spins her tale of deception about &#8220;poisoned&#8221; children who are &#8220;toxic train wrecks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, just had to respond to the &quot;original cali biomed xpert&quot; before I leave this site:  You do not speak on behalf of most of us or our children with autism.  This subject is cut in half just like politics.  Those of us who believe and those of you who don&#039;t.  I am not alone in my belief as you can see by the number of vaccination waivers being signed nowadays and the other organizations out there like safeminds, taca, dan and many others.  Like I said, I&#039;m sorry for stumbling onto this site.  I wouldn&#039;t have responded the first time if I would have known who I was dealing with.  I thought this was an open forum in an actual autism group not a one mans belief site.  sorry for the intrusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, just had to respond to the &#8220;original cali biomed xpert&#8221; before I leave this site:  You do not speak on behalf of most of us or our children with autism.  This subject is cut in half just like politics.  Those of us who believe and those of you who don&#8217;t.  I am not alone in my belief as you can see by the number of vaccination waivers being signed nowadays and the other organizations out there like safeminds, taca, dan and many others.  Like I said, I&#8217;m sorry for stumbling onto this site.  I wouldn&#8217;t have responded the first time if I would have known who I was dealing with.  I thought this was an open forum in an actual autism group not a one mans belief site.  sorry for the intrusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Prometheus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prometheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samantha,

Actually, you are in &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the &lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt; place. You will &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; hear any doubt or questioning of the &quot;vaccines-cause-autism&quot; dogma on any of the &quot;biomed&quot; sites - they simply won&#039;t tolerate it.

Take a moment and think about it - if there really &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a massive conspiracy to &quot;cover-up&quot; the &quot;fact&quot; that vaccines (MMR or others) caused autism, wouldn&#039;t you have expected to hear from a &quot;whistle-blower&quot; (or several) by now?

The CIA can&#039;t keep its extra-territorial prisons secret for a couple of years, yet somehow the CDC, FDA, AMA (which onlt has 18% of US physicians as members) and &lt;i&gt;Big Pharma&lt;/i&gt; have managed to keep &lt;i&gt;tens of thousands of people from talking&lt;/i&gt;?

You&#039;d think that somewhere, some GS-4 clerk would have decided that he or she could make more money in one appearance on &lt;i&gt;Oprah&lt;/i&gt; than they could in a lifetime at their job. Yet, for some inexplicable reason, nobody has come forth to tell the whole sordid story from the inside perspective.

Strange.

There are a number of parents who share your story of regression after the MMR - there are also a number of parents whose children showed regression between 15 and 18 months but &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; get the MMR jab. Perhaps, just &lt;i&gt;perhaps&lt;/i&gt;, the story is a bit more complicated than you see it.

I hope that you keep coming back and that you will try to keep an open mind.


Prometheus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha,</p>
<p>Actually, you are in <i>exactly</i> the <i>right</i> place. You will <i>never</i> hear any doubt or questioning of the &#8220;vaccines-cause-autism&#8221; dogma on any of the &#8220;biomed&#8221; sites &#8211; they simply won&#8217;t tolerate it.</p>
<p>Take a moment and think about it &#8211; if there really <i>was</i> a massive conspiracy to &#8220;cover-up&#8221; the &#8220;fact&#8221; that vaccines (MMR or others) caused autism, wouldn&#8217;t you have expected to hear from a &#8220;whistle-blower&#8221; (or several) by now?</p>
<p>The CIA can&#8217;t keep its extra-territorial prisons secret for a couple of years, yet somehow the CDC, FDA, AMA (which onlt has 18% of US physicians as members) and <i>Big Pharma</i> have managed to keep <i>tens of thousands of people from talking</i>?</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that somewhere, some GS-4 clerk would have decided that he or she could make more money in one appearance on <i>Oprah</i> than they could in a lifetime at their job. Yet, for some inexplicable reason, nobody has come forth to tell the whole sordid story from the inside perspective.</p>
<p>Strange.</p>
<p>There are a number of parents who share your story of regression after the MMR &#8211; there are also a number of parents whose children showed regression between 15 and 18 months but <i>didn&#8217;t</i> get the MMR jab. Perhaps, just <i>perhaps</i>, the story is a bit more complicated than you see it.</p>
<p>I hope that you keep coming back and that you will try to keep an open mind.</p>
<p>Prometheus</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize.  I, initially, didn&#039;t read to see what this website is all about or what it represents.  I stumbled upon it and regret it.  I am, obviously, in the wrong place. I will not bother you all again with my comments.   Thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize.  I, initially, didn&#8217;t read to see what this website is all about or what it represents.  I stumbled upon it and regret it.  I am, obviously, in the wrong place. I will not bother you all again with my comments.   Thanks <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: original cali biomed xprt</title>
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		<dc:creator>original cali biomed xprt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Samantha, those who are listening and have learned to truly think outside the box, realize there is no vaccine conspiracy and really dislike their kids or themselves or their friends being falsely referred to as &quot;poisoned&quot;.  And why should any of us need to meet or know McCarthy in order to    adequately analyze whether or not what she is promoting has any basis in scientific truth?  Either she can stand by what she claims or she can&#039;t.  Knowing her personally shouldn&#039;t have anything to do with that.  And what exactly is &quot;your autism community&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Samantha, those who are listening and have learned to truly think outside the box, realize there is no vaccine conspiracy and really dislike their kids or themselves or their friends being falsely referred to as &#8220;poisoned&#8221;.  And why should any of us need to meet or know McCarthy in order to    adequately analyze whether or not what she is promoting has any basis in scientific truth?  Either she can stand by what she claims or she can&#8217;t.  Knowing her personally shouldn&#8217;t have anything to do with that.  And what exactly is &#8220;your autism community&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vaccine program has already been damaged.  They have poisoned alot of our children and until they change some of the ingredients in the vaccs, begin to take responsibility, and stop lying to us, it will continue to be a huge issue. I am one of the thousands of parents who waive my children&#039;s vaccinations.  If anyone is at fault it is the pharmeceutical companies and those who support them in this. Until they step up and be honest with us, I will continue to support those who refuse to vaccinate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vaccine program has already been damaged.  They have poisoned alot of our children and until they change some of the ingredients in the vaccs, begin to take responsibility, and stop lying to us, it will continue to be a huge issue. I am one of the thousands of parents who waive my children&#8217;s vaccinations.  If anyone is at fault it is the pharmeceutical companies and those who support them in this. Until they step up and be honest with us, I will continue to support those who refuse to vaccinate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again, Samantha

I am not judging McCarthy the person. I am judging McCarthy, the official spokesperson for TACA. She contradicts herself. She makes basic factual errors and she makes statements that are not supported by the scientific literature. And she does this on prime time TV and is spreading misinformation that will damage the vaccine programme and lead to children suffering from preventable diseases. That is my beef with Jenny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again, Samantha</p>
<p>I am not judging McCarthy the person. I am judging McCarthy, the official spokesperson for TACA. She contradicts herself. She makes basic factual errors and she makes statements that are not supported by the scientific literature. And she does this on prime time TV and is spreading misinformation that will damage the vaccine programme and lead to children suffering from preventable diseases. That is my beef with Jenny.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that the only way some people will listen, open their minds and look outside the box is when something like this actually happens to your own child.  I don&#039;t have to be convinced of the damages the MMR can do.  Our child is proof, so is the emergency room visit and the complete change in his whole being. My son has autism and our story is frightening familiar to Jenny McCarthy&#039;s and so are thousands of others. If you lived in our autism community, it would be easier for you to understand, but most of you don&#039;t.  You don&#039;t see what we see, have seen and you never will. What&#039;s sad is how judgemental people can be when it comes to Jenny.  All of the judgements are coming from people who do not know her, never met her and will never meet her.   
There should be more focus on the pharmaceutical companies and some of the medical community.  Now, that&#039;s where the lies and the cover-ups are.  Most of you know what I&#039;m talking about.  It&#039;s no secret what&#039;s really going on.  It&#039;s taken some time but the truth is slowly coming out and certain people(especially the pharmaceutical companies) are starting to panic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that the only way some people will listen, open their minds and look outside the box is when something like this actually happens to your own child.  I don&#8217;t have to be convinced of the damages the MMR can do.  Our child is proof, so is the emergency room visit and the complete change in his whole being. My son has autism and our story is frightening familiar to Jenny McCarthy&#8217;s and so are thousands of others. If you lived in our autism community, it would be easier for you to understand, but most of you don&#8217;t.  You don&#8217;t see what we see, have seen and you never will. What&#8217;s sad is how judgemental people can be when it comes to Jenny.  All of the judgements are coming from people who do not know her, never met her and will never meet her.<br />
There should be more focus on the pharmaceutical companies and some of the medical community.  Now, that&#8217;s where the lies and the cover-ups are.  Most of you know what I&#8217;m talking about.  It&#8217;s no secret what&#8217;s really going on.  It&#8217;s taken some time but the truth is slowly coming out and certain people(especially the pharmaceutical companies) are starting to panic.</p>
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		<title>By: Prometheus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prometheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

To answer Kathi, it is &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; that DMSO enhances transdermal absorption of substances such as DMSA (a chelating agent), but it hasn&#039;t yet been &lt;i&gt;shown&lt;/i&gt;. DMSO enhances transdermal absorption of &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; compounds and not others.

And that&#039;s the funny part.

The evil drug companies (you know, &lt;i&gt;Big Pharma&lt;/i&gt;) would have to &lt;i&gt;show&lt;/i&gt; that their transdermal drug was actually absorbed. 

&quot;Alternative&quot; autism practitioners, on the other hand, &lt;i&gt;do not know&lt;/i&gt; if the drugs they give you to smear on your child&#039;s skin are ever absorbed.

This issue has been brought before some of the key players in transdermal autism therapy and their reaction has been, &quot;I&#039;m too busy to find out if my remedy gets absorbed.&quot;

Remember, it is &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; ethical responsibility (if not &lt;i&gt;legal&lt;/i&gt; responsibility) to find out if their cream works &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; they start selling it at $150 an ounce.

As far as &quot;someone&quot; doing studies on &quot;alternative&quot; autism therapies, the &lt;i&gt;usual&lt;/i&gt; procedure is for the people who want to market a product to &lt;i&gt;test&lt;/i&gt; the treatment &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; they start to sell it. 

It is &lt;i&gt;completely&lt;/i&gt; backwards to market the treatment and &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; insist that &quot;someone&quot; do the research to see if it works and is safe.


Prometheus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>To answer Kathi, it is <i>possible</i> that DMSO enhances transdermal absorption of substances such as DMSA (a chelating agent), but it hasn&#8217;t yet been <i>shown</i>. DMSO enhances transdermal absorption of <i>some</i> compounds and not others.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the funny part.</p>
<p>The evil drug companies (you know, <i>Big Pharma</i>) would have to <i>show</i> that their transdermal drug was actually absorbed. </p>
<p>&#8220;Alternative&#8221; autism practitioners, on the other hand, <i>do not know</i> if the drugs they give you to smear on your child&#8217;s skin are ever absorbed.</p>
<p>This issue has been brought before some of the key players in transdermal autism therapy and their reaction has been, &#8220;I&#8217;m too busy to find out if my remedy gets absorbed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember, it is <i>their</i> ethical responsibility (if not <i>legal</i> responsibility) to find out if their cream works <i>before</i> they start selling it at $150 an ounce.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;someone&#8221; doing studies on &#8220;alternative&#8221; autism therapies, the <i>usual</i> procedure is for the people who want to market a product to <i>test</i> the treatment <i>before</i> they start to sell it. </p>
<p>It is <i>completely</i> backwards to market the treatment and <i>then</i> insist that &#8220;someone&#8221; do the research to see if it works and is safe.</p>
<p>Prometheus</p>
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